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MTD VAT options for old versions

Current situation

MTD VAT applications need to be approved by HMRC prior to use.

Dynamics Nav versions (v 2015 onwards) have been approved and MTD related CUs are now available.

Microsoft have released MTD VAT related patches as part of the cumulative update program for versions 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.

So older versions of Dynamics Nav / Navision will not have a patch released and therefore will never be approved by HMRC.

So older versions of Dynamics Nav / Navision cannot be used for VAT transmissions to HMRC under MTD VAT.

Option 1: upgrade to Dynamics 365 Business Central

Apparently you cannot purchase new Dynamics Nav 2018 licences in the UK.

This needs to be completed by your Microsoft partner - they have the tools to complete this work, we do not. So we do not offer this service.

But this will take time to complete. The upgrade is not covered by your current maintenance charges though the new licences will be provided free of charge under a paid maintenance agreement.

So there is a cost involved as well as upheaval while the upgrade takes place.

The time taken to upgrade will depend on how old your version of Navision / Dynamics Nav is and the level / number of bespoke changes you have made to your Navision / Dynamics Nav database re tables, forms, pages, reports and codeunits.

Option 2: use 3rd party tool to submit VAT returns

An alternative option is to use a 3rd party tool.

This will allow you to complete VAT statements in the usual way in Navision / Dynamics Nav, copy / paste / export into Excel and then use the 3rd party tool to submit.

The approved 3rd party tools are listed here. These include full application approvals as well as 3rd party submissionm tools.

The one we like the look of (as it looks like an Excel add on tool so simple) is here.

Tasks to complete now

1. Assess whether MTD VAT applies to your business. If so......

2. Register for MTD VAT - yes this does require registration on top of your existing VAT registration.

3. Pay for the 3rd party tool.

4. Complete the relevant setup data on the 3rd party tool.

5. Use!

6. By April 2020, plan a Dynamics Nav upgrade as the 3rd party tools cannot be used. At least that is the latest thinking by HMRC on the subject but this does change so keep on eye on this web page for the latest news.

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We have now restarted our 'at client site' on site support. This includes as required training (end user or super user), end user Q&A sessions, 'how can we fix / use the app for x' etc. Subject to availability so if you need us book now via Contact us.

Full range of services for Dynamics 365 Business Central / Dynamics Nav / Navision. Details here.

Need help on VAT MTD for Dynamics Nav / 365 Business Central? Email us.

We cover all versions of Navision (Financials, Attain) as well as Dynamics Nav and Dynamics 365 Business Central. Email us with your needs.


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